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    Default Latest Silly Idea: Classic pornstars

    So this is in its infancy, but with all the murmurs of Nina Hartley in the pipeline. I have often wondered about the viability of a line of Classic Pornstars. I mentioned something like this a while ago, but really, I think this could be a neat area to explore.

    There are plenty of older models who were once active in porn, and who since have semi-retired, and don't normally shoot porn anymore. Many of these girls however, still appear at conventions and interact on web sites and do cam shows, so a lot of them, it seems, don't mind getting naked and letting people see their vaginas (for lack of a better phrase). 99.9999% of their fans however, would never get the chance to be with them, even on a porn set. Fleshlight could possibly exploit this as a chance to "get inside your first fantasy", and market a product to the older (and younger) generation that also fantasize about these girls.

    Off the top of my head, you could also do:

    Vanessa Del Rio (still shooting for her site)

    Sharon Mitchell?

    Christy Canyon?

    (A smart thing to do would be to get in contact with the older, retired stars and see if they would do it. I'm not sure who else that would be? Surely you could get two or three though.)

    or, for a somewhat younger buyer, the myriad 90s girls, like Jill Kelly, Jenna Jameson, Nikita Denise. You could even split them off and do a line of recently retired girls like them, and have a true classics line of girls from the 1970s and 80s.

    I think the key here would be to test the idea with two to three models, preferably with a signature texture, available outside of normal ILF channels, able to reach fans of vintage porn. They could be sold in all the online markets, and also hyped on vintage boards and forums. There are guys out there who spend a ton of money on classic porn stuff, and I'm thinking it would be an interesting opportunity to attract some new buyers.

    At the same time, the Fleshlight whores on here would buy it anyway because of the new texture-- a win-win.

    Before anyone on the forum bashes the idea "because they're old", try to think: How many people really know who a given girl is? Most of the current Fleshlight Girls are not hugely popular (yes, some are, I know), yet somebody must be buying them. Hell, I'm pretty aware of modern porn, but I'll freely admit that I don't know enough about half of the girls on the site to blind buy a molded sex toy from them. The girls from twenty or thirty years ago (remember, twenty years ago is now 1992) have a lot of fans, because the industry was smaller and slower, so girls stayed in fans minds.

    I will say one thing though: I'm not sure Nina Hartley is the appropriate litmus test for the idea. It's great if/that she will get a Fleshlight, but she is very overexposed right now, and obviously has a broader appeal than most other stars of classic porn.

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    Default Re: Latest Silly Idea: Classic pornstars

    In terms of "viability" are we talking MILF or GILF with these starlets?

    Not many would be interested in age marked (age related wrinkles, etc.) orifices, and as an aside I'm sure that they retired or "semi-retired" for a reason and may not be as open to being molded as an active starlet.

    Also attendance of conventions doesn't automatically mean that they would be interested, some people just want benign attention and the thought that your next autographee might very well be drooling and exclaiming the joys of pounding a simulation of your pussy can be quite disturbing.

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    Default Re: Latest Silly Idea: Classic pornstars

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsphinx View Post
    Christy Canyon?
    This. Christy's late career scenes rock my cock even more than her early ones.

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    Mrsphinx, i could´nt have written your opener better than you did. But i have to say, me, as a 24 yo guy, almost does´nt know any of the names you wrote about.

    Sure, as more "modern" the names become, i obviously know who Jenna Jameson is - to name 1 example ! But all the old names from the 70s/80s, i maybe heared, but had no face which i could link with it. Anyway, if ILF would think about a 90s-FLG-line, i would love to buy some of those

    On the other hand, hoe realistic is your idea !?

    I mean, Fleshlights are something which was created in the 90s, showed up on the market on the mid/late-90s, obviously became popular to many persons even later...and even by now, 2012, ILF does´nt not ship the whole world (or has some MASSIVE shipping costs to several countrys) or has kontinental HQs around the world. Even here in Europe, its more or less an experiment and ILF does´nt offer the full product range like ILF does in the US.

    But okay, its a great idea and i hope the higher ups are about to have a look on this thread

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    Default Re: Latest Silly Idea: Classic pornstars

    Nina Hartley is a legend. I'll buy her fleshlight, even though I don't even like the look of her large pussy very much, and even though I might rarely or never use it. It's a "must have" for me and my wife likes Nina Hartley a lot too. I'll get it even if it's a lotus, but I'm guessing it might have some hearts or something. Yes, Nina's getting on in years, but if a legend like her doesn't deserve a fleshlight, then nobody does IMO.

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    And they should all come with a giant 80s bush so you´d get to go jungle trekking before entering! Seriously though, this wouldn´t ba anything I would be interested in, I like be be able to get fresh material of the girls I buy FLs for, and honestly, the old school look doesn´t do it for me.

    But I bet there are others that would be interested, the questions is how many, and how many of the older generation is clued up enough with the porn industri and internet to find them.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsphinx View Post
    So this is in its infancy, but with all the murmurs of Nina Hartley in the pipeline. I have often wondered about the viability of a line of Classic Pornstars. I mentioned something like this a while ago, but really, I think this could be a neat area to explore.

    There are plenty of older models who were once active in porn, and who since have semi-retired, and don't normally shoot porn anymore. Many of these girls however, still appear at conventions and interact on web sites and do cam shows, so a lot of them, it seems, don't mind getting naked and letting people see their vaginas (for lack of a better phrase). 99.9999% of their fans however, would never get the chance to be with them, even on a porn set. Fleshlight could possibly exploit this as a chance to "get inside your first fantasy", and market a product to the older (and younger) generation that also fantasize about these girls.

    Off the top of my head, you could also do:

    Vanessa Del Rio (still shooting for her site)

    Sharon Mitchell?

    Christy Canyon?

    (A smart thing to do would be to get in contact with the older, retired stars and see if they would do it. I'm not sure who else that would be? Surely you could get two or three though.)

    or, for a somewhat younger buyer, the myriad 90s girls, like Jill Kelly, Jenna Jameson, Nikita Denise. You could even split them off and do a line of recently retired girls like them, and have a true classics line of girls from the 1970s and 80s.

    I think the key here would be to test the idea with two to three models, preferably with a signature texture, available outside of normal ILF channels, able to reach fans of vintage porn. They could be sold in all the online markets, and also hyped on vintage boards and forums. There are guys out there who spend a ton of money on classic porn stuff, and I'm thinking it would be an interesting opportunity to attract some new buyers.

    At the same time, the Fleshlight whores on here would buy it anyway because of the new texture-- a win-win.

    Before anyone on the forum bashes the idea "because they're old", try to think: How many people really know who a given girl is? Most of the current Fleshlight Girls are not hugely popular (yes, some are, I know), yet somebody must be buying them. Hell, I'm pretty aware of modern porn, but I'll freely admit that I don't know enough about half of the girls on the site to blind buy a molded sex toy from them. The girls from twenty or thirty years ago (remember, twenty years ago is now 1992) have a lot of fans, because the industry was smaller and slower, so girls stayed in fans minds.

    I will say one thing though: I'm not sure Nina Hartley is the appropriate litmus test for the idea. It's great if/that she will get a Fleshlight, but she is very overexposed right now, and obviously has a broader appeal than most other stars of classic porn.

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    Okay guys and girls, instead of quoting, I'm just going to post some queries and my responses to them:

    "I've never heard of the girls."

    Answer: Google is your friend. You deserve to educate yourself.

    "No market for the orifice."

    Answer: I point you to Alien, Cyborg, Drac, Frankenstein, Zombie, Succu Dry, etc. to prove that ILF can market orifices that are anything but that of a youthful girl. There would certainly be a built-in market for a new signature texture regardless. I would also point out the recent popularity of the MILF Hunter sleeve, which is a similar idea to what I am proposing. Many of these girls are still in their 30s and 40s, and there's no reason that guys of all ages wouldn't want to drool over them even now. By any standard other than the "porn standard" they are eminently desirable.

    "Who would buy them?"

    Answer: Obviously, I can't speak for others, but I sure as hell would. For the record, I'm of similar age to DaHorse, if it matters.

    Alternate answer: Many people who are fans of these girls presently have no reason to associate with Fleshlight, because they may have less or no interest in the current offerings.

    The untapped market for this could be quite large, especially as you're looking at including older guys, who potentially have more disposable income.

    Just this year, for example, a company called Video-X-Pix started taking donations from fans to put the Henry Paris classic The Opening of Misty Beethoven (1976) out on Blu-ray (a restored DVD set was guaranteed regardless). They exceeded their $10,000 goal in days, raising over $13,500 for the project this summer. They also have other restored vintage titles on DVD that sell for as much as $40 each.

    Taschen Books released a huge art book/documentary on Vanessa Del Rio a few years ago, called Fifty Years of Slightly Slutty Behavior. The editions on their site go for $700 and $1,800 (comes with an art print!), respectively. They have finally released a reasonably-priced trade hardcover version for less than $40 on Amazon (ISBN-13: 978-3836521093), and it has generally glowing reviews. I want to get it, but I have to figure out where to hide it.

    Girls like Christy Canyon and Taylor Wayne have sex-themed radio shows--hell Taylor is still shooting porn nowadays. As is Ginger Lynn, who slipped my mind last night, for some reason.

    There are online communities at places like AV Maniacs or Rock Shock Pop where vintage erotica has entire subsections, and don't forget that eBay's adult section has thousands of listings for vintage 8mm loops, 16mm films, betamax and VHS tapes.

    All I am saying with the above is that there has to be a market for older pornstars, otherwise these companies would not be spending this kind of money or seeing the kinds of response they do. This points to why I think its vital that ILF put them out via the whole internet and not just as exclusives on their site.

    Beyond that issue, this is basically no different from any other sleeve Fleshlight has put out, and with a good signature texture, ILF would get sales from Fleshlight die-hards regardless of what the orifice looked like. The plus however, is the potential for better name-brand association from customers.

    So let's say you can get three girls, or maybe two girls plus Nina Hartley. Provided the models are willing, I really don't see the harm in trying this at all.

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    Default Re: Latest Silly Idea: Classic pornstars

    I think this is a great idea. Whatever gets me more girls and textures! Besides, would be great to get into the bodies of such girls as Gauge, Kylie Ireland, Miko Lee, Nicole Sheridan, the Love twins...

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    Default Re: Latest Silly Idea: Classic pornstars

    What about Racquel Darrian

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcp-pct View Post
    What about Racquel Darrian
    The other "lovely Racquel"...



    From my view, any girl who is willing would be more than welcome, but Fleshlight should probably test the waters with two or three girls to start. I'm pretty certain no one has really tried anything like this before, so it's foreign territory, but that's all the more reason for ILF to give it a try.

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    Default Re: Latest Silly Idea: Classic pornstars

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsphinx View Post
    The other "lovely Racquel"...



    From my view, any girl who is willing would be more than welcome, but Fleshlight should probably test the waters with two or three girls to start. I'm pretty certain no one has really tried anything like this before, so it's foreign territory, but that's all the more reason for ILF to give it a try.
    They gonna test it with Nina Hartley, i read that on Fleshlights Twitter account. Check the "Ask Fleshlight"-Thread for my posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaHorse View Post
    They gonna test it with Nina Hartley, i read that on Fleshlights Twitter account. Check the "Ask Fleshlight"-Thread for my posting.
    Nina Hartley has been planned for a while, so she's not really part of this idea. Nina would have been molded eventually anyway, as she's too exposed to ignore. Don't get me wrong, I love her, but she's basically the Meryl Streep of the porn industry.

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    Default Re: Latest Silly Idea: Classic pornstars

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsphinx View Post
    Nina Hartley has been planned for a while, so she's not really part of this idea. Nina would have been molded eventually anyway, as she's too exposed to ignore. Don't get me wrong, I love her, but she's basically the Meryl Streep of the porn industry.
    She will basicly work as an experiment, with or without your thread being noticed by the higher ups. Even if she was rumored/planned for a while, ILF never spend a word before AFAIK.

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    Hey, look who's back (and looking much better (i.e. far less tanned) than earlier this year on Brazzers, in my opinion):



    http://tour.naughtyamerica.com/scenes/houston/15179/?&nats=MTAwNC40LjguOC42NDIuMC4wLjAuMA

    Happy days are here again. I hope she's here to stay for at least a while. I can find a non-penetration shot of labia, but let's just say that it's begging to be molded, mostly because I have lusted terribly for Houston since well over a decade ago. That's right, I'm selfish.

    P.S. Houston turned 43 (!) in March, according to IAFD.
    Last edited by mrsphinx; 11-13-2012 at 12:16 AM.

 

 

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