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    IMO, they assigned a Signature texture to each pornstar to publicize the textures. When the textures became popular, ILF figured they could make more money by moving them away from the Girls line to the BYO line. Time will tell if it will be more profitable this way. FleshlightDaniel posted this in the "Ask Fleshlight" thread:

    "We will be streamlining our product line. Here's the reasoning behind it: a majority of our customers are 1st time buyers. We often get questions as to which product to purchase, and we get a lot of inquiries regarding confusion amongst all the different types of products we offer.

    We're making the purchasing experience simple for everyone."

    That appears to be the official reason behind the changes, but then why not just add some of the textures to the BYO and leave the signature textures with the girls line? They could have dropped the "Signature" moniker and just called them "special textures" or something non-committal like that. No, methinks they did it purely for the profits, which you can't blame them for, but many loyal customers feel like it's a slap in the face.

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    It will fail and they'll soon realize they need to hook up the FLGs with the normal textures.

    Even when it's cheaper for them now, 2 words will destroy their plans "pink" & "orifices"! I'm more than sure.


    I'd really like to see how many pink sleeves they sold and FLG sleeves they sold.
    I bet the pink ain't even made half of their sales (maybe many first time buyers get pinks as their first sleeve but not long timers).

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    I agree! But I hope it's not a case of lower sales + lower inventory costs = more profits. I'd like to see ILF bring the textures back to the girls line as well.

    BTW SativaRoseLover, LOVE your new avatar! Who is she?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbean View Post
    BTW SativaRoseLover, LOVE your new avatar! Who is she?
    Sativa Rose, of course
    You need to search her content of 2009 if you want her like that.
    Can PN you dl links for all the scenes of this time.



    Anyway back to topic!

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    I voted yes and i will always vote yes on changing the lady oriface. I don't know about you guys but every oriface feels different when i penetrate it like with the different FLGs, some feel loose some feel tight and everything in between, but also the unique shape and texture of each oriface has it's own feel to me and i don't really like the way the lady oriface feels. Does anyone else know what i mean about each oriface feeling different?

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    Agree 100%
    It's not very much but it makes a difference.

    I just did my Lady Super Tight because it's too late for long cleaning now and there is nothing.
    It's just like a big black hole that that eats your dick without touching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SativaRoseLover View Post
    Sativa Rose, of course
    You need to search her content of 2009 if you want her like that.
    Can PN you dl links for all the scenes of this time.



    Anyway back to topic!
    Ohhhhh....... (don't I feel stoooopid!)
    Thanks for the links. She's kinda cute! Alright back to topic. What were we talking about?

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    I guess something that doesn't have an amazingly beautiful (ohh god, if they make a Sativa mold, I'd buy 10 of them ) pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Full Force View Post
    I voted yes and i will always vote yes on changing the lady oriface. I don't know about you guys but every oriface feels different when i penetrate it like with the different FLGs, some feel loose some feel tight and everything in between, but also the unique shape and texture of each oriface has it's own feel to me and i don't really like the way the lady oriface feels. Does anyone else know what i mean about each oriface feeling different?
    I only have LH & Tornado, but yes I know what you mean!

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    Just take the Asa Akira, Riley Steele and Miela orifice.
    There's such a big difference between them. Of course they also feel a bit different.

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    I definitely understand that some of the FLGs having not so popular textures probably led to the removal of the FLG textures but I just hope like everyone else that they do come back and not just the six available in the BYO option now. When you think how some of the FLG, like Jenna Haze for example who is probably one of the most popular stars out there, have a texture like the Maze while others have something like the Bi-Hive you can see where the sales would be skewed in the favor of some. But that shouldn't mean they just scrap everything and get rid of them.

    Like I said before the BYO is a good start but it's the same on both the FL and FJ sites and there were some great textures on the FJ site. Hopefully we'll see those again as well because I know they were very high on most lists. As far as the PL orifice itself goes, I think even if they at least shrunk the size of it down so it wasn't so huge (which is a big reason for the Horse Pussy nickname) it would at least be a step in the right direction. I understand you can't make everyone happy but when there is this many people asking for change it shows how needed a change is.

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    Short and simple:
    1. Retire the old lady for the MILF hunter. Trade the mini-maid for something like Miela or Ariel's labia. We need two pussies more than we need two butts.

    2. Use the FLG material instead of pink.

    That way the logistics stay the same. The material might cost more but I doubt it's that high. I hope they rotate their textures once in a while too. I always wanted to try the Bliss or Love Humps.

    I would like to see a choice of three colors: Pink, Mocha and Dark (like Misty) but I imagine tone would be the hardest part on their logistics since the orifice and texture are probably modular. Keep it simple and put the pressure on one area until they change it, then move on to another. Consensus with an alternative within the margins.

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    Just to keep this alive since they really wanna make some changes on the "new" stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SativaRoseLover View Post
    Just to keep this alive since they really wanna make some changes on the "new" stuff.

    I really think the addition of the limited run of the fleshtone in the BYO is a big step in the right direction and i really hope that for the people who still have money to spend after the Syonara FLG's will purchase some of these new fleshtone BYO's so we can have the fleshtone option pemanently. It would be for the greater good for everyone here and many people including myself would be very appreciative of the people who can make this thing happen!!!

    I really hope that if the fleshtone run goes well ILF will consider giving us some new oriface choices.

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    They need to add a better looking pussy orifice to go with the better looking color!

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    I guess this thread is quite pointless now, hm?


    How things can change in a few days.

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    Default Re: Retire the Lady orifice?

    I don't see it as pointless; I'd still like to see some different options other than the generic, if I were to buy a new STU, Ice etc.

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    Pointless? Why give up now that they caved in about the FLG textures? ILF seems to be in a listening mood right now...

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    Sure!
    It's about 50/50 now.

    Not that important like a few days ago when there was no chance to get something else than Lotus, Forbidden and Swallow without the horse.
    Now it's again just a small number of textures that would come with it.

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    But it probably won't be permanent. SarahLIFE said,
    For those of you who are trying to figure out why we backed out of our original plan, it is because it didn't work out, plain and simple. Your ideas of voting with your money really did work out. Sales went down, we realized how much people like having the FLGs and FJBs with their signature textures, and so we brought them back until we can figure out what the next step is. I cannot promise that these are back permanently, because things are always changing within this company. I believe the plan is to leave these up for a while, but I cannot guarantee that they will stay forever.
    So who knows what's going to happen in the future? Right now we're safe...

    It would be nice to still have as many choices as possible. I prefer the FLG line, but only because it offers me the most choices. It should be the rule, not the exception.

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    When they still want to release something new they should just do it without removing something else for it.
    When the new stuff is selling well they still have the chance to do it.
    Last edited by SativaRoseLover; 05-11-2013 at 04:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SativaRoseLover View Post
    When they are still want to release something new they should just do it without removing something else for it.
    When the new stuff is selling well they still have the chance to do it.
    I agree. It doesn't make sense what they did and the order they did it in. If they're looking for the BYO line to overtake the signatures, they have to make it as (or more) appealing than the FLG's sigs. This is where a new orifice to replace the horsie comes in... Hmmm...maybe I'm starting to see your point!

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    They just need to make new contracts with all the girls if they really want the BYO to take over.
    They need to remove the (signature) textures outta their contracts and make them their own so the girls are just the "owner" of their mold without rights on any texture.
    And they need to add the Lotus and Swallow to the BYO.

    Then they could offer a crazy big number of orifices + textures in the BYO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SativaRoseLover View Post
    They just need to make new contracts with all the girls if they really want the BYO to take over.
    They need to remove the (signature) textures outta their contracts and make them their own so the girls are just the "owner" of their mold without rights on any texture.
    And they need to add the Lotus and Swallow to the BYO.

    Then they could offer a crazy big number of orifices + textures in the BYO.
    Sounds good and all but I would much rather see a BYO FLG rather than ditching the FLG's again, If ILF did that then there would be nothing better except when they would add some new textures. As much as i like the current FLG signature textures I'd be ok with it if ILF decided to replace the less popular textures with all new ones IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SativaRoseLover View Post
    They just need to make new contracts with all the girls if they really want the BYO to take over.
    They need to remove the (signature) textures outta their contracts and make them their own so the girls are just the "owner" of their mold without rights on any texture.
    And they need to add the Lotus and Swallow to the BYO.

    Then they could offer a crazy big number of orifices + textures in the BYO.

    Why do you think that the signature textures are a part of their contracts?

    I dont think they are - only their names, appearance in adverts and orifice mold are.
    Last edited by stx; 05-12-2013 at 02:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stx View Post
    Why do you think that the signature textures are a part of their contracts?

    I dont think they are - only their names, appearance in adverts and orifice mold are.
    STX must be right, cause if the Textures would be linked to somebody via Contract, they could not be part of the BYO options.

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    But I guess they are, when there would be a BYO without the pink material!
    And of course their autograph needs to be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SativaRoseLover View Post
    But I guess they are, when there would be a BYO without the pink material!
    And of course their autograph needs to be removed.
    No. The autograph is just a part of the orifice end (decoration), not the texture (the inside). Anyway, since several of the former FLG signature textures are now available as BYO line proves that the signatures textures are not in the girls' contracts. The only reason for the FLG signatures textures to return to the FLG line, were the negative response and/or sales, not a contract issue that ILF suddenly discovered.

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    Since Fleshlight says they "listen" please take the time to hear this. We want internal molded vaginas of all the fleshlight girls you have. Forget about meiki .. fleshlight can make it come alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by myaccountwasdeleted View Post
    Since Fleshlight says they "listen" please take the time to hear this. We want internal molded vaginas of all the fleshlight girls you have. Forget about meiki .. fleshlight can make it come alive!

    Hell yeah, and make it a hip mold while their at it! We've been asking for a hip mold for a very long time now and i know it would be possible. As long as it isn't $200 and up i would definitely buy one, if they could make it able to be interchangeable with the fleshlights and it is not outrageously priced it would be revolutionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stx View Post
    No. The autograph is just a part of the orifice end (decoration), not the texture (the inside). Anyway, since several of the former FLG signature textures are now available as BYO line proves that the signatures textures are not in the girls' contracts.
    Not necessarily true. The textures from the girls that are in BYO may have sold their rights back to ILF, while the rest of the girls may have not. Or possibly, they haven't reached a certain sales mark in which ILF no longer has to pay them for use of the texture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleeveMaster View Post
    Not necessarily true. The textures from the girls that are in BYO may have sold their rights back to ILF, while the rest of the girls may have not. Or possibly, they haven't reached a certain sales mark in which ILF no longer has to pay them for use of the texture.
    While it's possible that they sold the rights of the texture back to ILF, I sincerely doubt the textures were in their contracts to begin with. After all, the Stoya Destroya has remained available this whole time through the Pirates and they put Destroya in the BYO. If the textures ARE part of the girls' contracts, I highly doubt there would ever be a point where ILF no longer pays them for it. They would receive a profit for each one sold so long as the contract is enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthan View Post
    While it's possible that they sold the rights of the texture back to ILF, I sincerely doubt the textures were in their contracts to begin with. After all, the Stoya Destroya has remained available this whole time through the Pirates and they put Destroya in the BYO. If the textures ARE part of the girls' contracts, I highly doubt there would ever be a point where ILF no longer pays them for it. They would receive a profit for each one sold so long as the contract is enforced.
    What I should of said is, ILF probably doesn't have to pay the girls for any use of the texture that doesn't have their personal signature, ie. BYO. The Pirate editions would definitely still be in their contract.

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    Pretty much what I said. The texture is owned by ILF while use of the girls' names, orifice and signature is a licensing deal

    EDIT: I'm not even convinced the girls own their molded orifice since it was molded and beautified by ILF. Obviously, ILF can't use the molded orifice without a licencing agreement with the girl, but the girl can't use the mold without ILF either But that's a different matter.
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    First: Though I agree to many things discussed here I'd prefere to keep the discussion on the FL line orifice and especially leave flesh-tone, textures and FLG in general out.

    I voted yes. Yes (not only) I believe that there is a difference between an artificial and a real orifice. The FLG line is popular for reasons. Apart from the texture I think that another part of the FLG success for me is exactly knowing that it was made from a real girl.

    So even if we don't know who it is knowing that the orifice from a normal FL line is from a real anonymous girl would be a huge difference. The normal FL line surely would get a boost therefore. Also keeping the source of the orifice unknown should be a part of it. Just imagine that the girl you meet on a street could be the one whose orifice is on the FL.

    Edit: Gave the thread 5 Stars!

    I'd go a different way though with the orifice options. Instead of having a selection of several one I'd simply change the orifice at times (like every year or so). This way even long-time FL owners like me still have motivation to buy something from the FL line (after all it is a collection . Just think of a WW combination with a real orifice - yum.
    Last edited by suamor; 05-16-2013 at 12:41 AM. Reason: Thread 5 Stars

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    I realize I'm replying to several old posts in an old-ish thread, so I'm going to try to copy them all together instead of multiple posts. I apologize if I screw this up or it gets confusing.

    On the subject of the Lady orifice, I'm part of the "retire it" crowd. I had an original pink lady a long time ago. It was OK, but it didn't really "do it" for me, so I grabbed one of the Puma Swede Lotus sleeves when they were dropping her from the line 3 years ago I think? In any case, I liked the Lotus, and I've bought several more FLG sleeves since then but no originals, specifically because of the Lady orifice...

    Quote Originally Posted by poppafatz View Post
    Short and simple:
    1. Retire the old lady for the MILF hunter. Trade the mini-maid for something like Miela or Ariel's labia. We need two pussies more than we need two butts.
    Sounds like a good option to me. The MILF Hunter looked far more attractive than the "Lady". Instead of the lady and the mini-maid, sort of offer a "large labia" version (Maybe even re-use the MILF hunter exterior for that...I might actually buy a few original textures then!) and a "small labia" version. This also doesn't add to the total number of combinations of orifice/texture, so it shouldn't make things any more complicated. You can't please everyone, I know, but the crowd here seems to be bored with the "Lady" orifice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Full Force View Post
    Does anyone else know what i mean about each oriface feeling different?
    Yes I do. As I mentioned above, the second sleeve I got after the original pink lady was Puma Swede's Lotus. Not only was the texture better, but the way the entry and exit felt was a big part of it too. I wore that sleeve out. I seem to recall that they brought her fleshlights back for a short while. I missed out, but if I could get another I'd buy it, but I digress.

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    I voted for the Pink Horse Lady to retire!

    I have nothing against it, but the fact is that there are more realistic and attractive fake pussy designs on the market... Even a fantasy toy inspired on a mare looks better than the current generic pussy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by casquetero View Post
    I voted for the Pink Horse Lady to retire!

    I have nothing against it, but the fact is that there are more realistic and attractive fake pussy designs on the market... Even a fantasy toy inspired on a mare looks better than the current generic pussy!
    There's aren't any signature girls serves the super ribbed texture. The PINK LADY orifice would be great. A big and large gaping hole is what I desire XD

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    Made an account here to reply specifically to this thread. BYO is not an option for me because it involves the ugly pink thing. Actually each of the textures are 'no-buy' to me simply from exterior appearance. So far I bought an FLG Lotus, a rare Marry Queen Mini-Lotus, and have a Stoya Forbidden on the way. The only other sleeve I plan on buying at a later date is an FLG Swallow, either the Stoya or Jenna Haze. Alien is a definite maybe, pending if I get a lot of spare cash or not in the next year.

    The BYO line would be a dream come true if you could choose from the FLG line for exteriors. This would mean much more business from me and likely everyone else. I am aware of manufacturing complexity being increased if this happens, why not do like a shoe company? They do one shoe size a day over a two week cycle. One day load up the Jenna Haze molds and put the various sleeves behind said molds. Next day Teagan Presley, so on so forth. Is this possible?

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    IMO, they should keep the current lady orifice. This would allow them to just continue using their current moulds and keep costs down on the "vanilla" fleshlights.

    The standard orifice looks fine, IMO. After getting 2 FLG sleeves though, the standard pink color is a bit off putting. Why not offer pink, white fleshtone, and black fleshtone (mocha?) as options for all the vanilla fleshlights?
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    Default Re: Retire the Lady orifice?

    Out with the horse vagina, in with a pretty new Vulva!

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    Default Re: Retire the Lady orifice?

    This poll shouldn't be forgotten! Keep the votes going! ONLY 98 votes total? This forum can do better than that. C'mon lurkers! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman78 View Post
    This poll shouldn't be forgotten! Keep the votes going! ONLY 98 votes total? This forum can do better than that. C'mon lurkers! lol

    I've already voted yes! I think they should at the very least upgrade the STU oriface since It's a premium FL that is still only offered in pink and with the ugly "horsey" as an oriface. But overall it's long overdue for a face lift for the standard orifaces.

 

 

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